Comments on: NTSB Animation of Marlin Air Cessna Citation Accident Investigation Near Milwaukee Wisconsin

By: RobertGary1

RobertGary1 — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:51:08 +0000

If the captain knew …
If the captain knew the issue was runaway trim (we don’t know even today), then he could have simply reacted to that. I’m not sure about the 550 but in every aircraft I’ve flown, if the trim is commanded more than a certain amount there is an annunciator (“trim, in motion”) that clues you in. This captain at least didn’t receive such an annuciator (either because the 550 doesn’t have it or because the it wasn’t a runway trim issue). Some also make a loud clicking when moving that clues you in.

By: amediastintas

amediastintas — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:51:08 +0000

yeah but if you …
yeah but if you have a runaway trim speeding up only makes it worse. he shoudlve instinctively turned the damper off. damper is linked to the rudder.

By: umahuma4

umahuma4 — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:51:08 +0000

The second officer …
The second officer doesnt even know his own aircraft? such a shame.

By: chipjumper

chipjumper — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:51:08 +0000

@jamesbooty That …
@jamesbooty That makes sense. Well it appears that U of M purchased their own fixed wing aircraft and are back in the long distance business.

By: jamesbooty

jamesbooty — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:51:08 +0000

@chipjumper There …
@chipjumper There was no FDR, which means there was no data on which to build the typical NTSB animation.

By: RobertGary1

RobertGary1 — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:51:08 +0000

Wow, that was …
Wow, that was non-obvious. The NTSB faulted him for building speed while having a control problem. I would have done the exact same thing. I wouldn’t want to be slow with low control effectiveness. Its one of those damned-if-you-do damned if you don’t situations.

By: EimantazzzWM

EimantazzzWM — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:51:08 +0000

what happened with …
what happened with the crew?

By: JensLine

JensLine — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:51:08 +0000

Second officer: …
Second officer: Where is it?
What a heck?

By: chipjumper

chipjumper — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:51:08 +0000

Why did they end …
Why did they end the video when the plane was still at 1900 feet? Why didn’t the NTSB do an animation like the other crashes? Ridiculous.

By: pomrizzle09

pomrizzle09 — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 01:51:08 +0000

So did the patient …
So did the patient ever get an organ?